A Zero-Grade Light Pronunciation of an Ejective:  We give Lolly credit for pronouncing this word the first time in this interview segment with her saying the second consonant [ tʼ ] with what we call a ‘light pronunciation’ of the ejective [ tʼ ], but we can hardly detect any ejective quality to it.  It sounds as much like a voiceless un-aspirated stop consonant, the t in the English words ‘steel’ and ‘steal’.  With other Milluk words, Lolly variously has ejectives which are emphatically ejective or lightly ejective.  We call the voiceless un-aspirated pronunciation of what is otherwise an ejective a ‘zero-grade light pronunciation’ of an ejective.  It can be heard in other Milluk words.  See what we say about phonetically voiceless un-aspirated stop consonants and ejectives in what we say about the interview segment “He Knew It”.  There, we do not refer to the voiceless un-aspirated pronunciation of a stop consonant as a ‘zero-grade light pronunciation’ of an ejective and we have taken the approach of not putting the ejective pronunciation in our table of transcriptions for the one-word Milluk sentence that means ‘He/she knew it’, on the grounds that we do not actually hear the consonant in question as an ejective from Lolly.